Curious Carthusian News

Readers may recall that, a little over two years ago, we reported that…

The new Prior General of the Carthusians, Dom François Marie Velut, O. Carth., was once known as Frère Michel de la Sainte Trinité.

…and was the Fatima scholar who wrote a hard-hitting and scholarly trilogy on the whole truth of Fatima.

This former disciple of the Abbe de Nantes has asked to be relieved of his duties “for health reasons.”

Now, from Gloria.TV news, comes this interesting notice concerning his replacement:

Connections: The new Prior General of the Cathusians, Dom Dysmas de Lassus, has strong family ties to the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Pius X through his eldest brother who worships with the Fraternity. This brother has two sons, Jean and Baudoin, who are priests and a daughter, Blandine, who is a Carmelite. All three are also part of the Fraternity.

Readers: If you know, please comment below to confirm that this is indeed the son of the intrepid Arnauld de Lassus, the French traditionalist layman who has done so much work for tradition in France. I am aware that Arnauld’s son entered La Grande Chartreuse some years ago.

All this leads me to ask the rhetorical question: What is going on in the Carthusians?

Here, by the way, is the news as reported by Le Salon Beige:

Dom Dysmas élu nouveau prieur de la Grande-Chartreuse

Dom Dysmas

Dom Dysmas de Lassus, Prieur de la Chartreuse de Portes a été élu aujourd’hui nouveau Prieur et ministre général de l’ordre.

Il succède à cette responsabilité  à Dom François-Marie Velut, qui, pour des raisons de santé, a demandé à être démis de sa charge.

Cette élection a été confirmée par le collège des Prieures et Prieurs de tout l’ordre. Les moines et moniales sont actuellemnt 350.

Dom Dysmas (Michel) de Lassus est âgé de 58 ans. Il est entré en chartreuse à 20 ans. Il a été jusqu’alors Père-Maître des novices à la Grande Chartreuse puis uis Prieur de la Chartreuse Notre Dame de Portes.

  • From a friend who knew Arnaud:

    Dear Brother André,

    I am able to confirm this identity. And his alert countenance!

    Arnaud and his larger family were allowed to visit Pere Dysmas (Michel) at the Grand Chartreuse only ONCE during the entire year–and they always did it!

    Arnaud’s eldest son, Yves de Lassus, is living in the south of France, in Toulon, on the Mediterranean Sea — a Retired Naval Officer (once a Commander of a French Submarine).

    Thank you for informing me of this blessed news, amidst all of your pressing duties.

    In Domino,

    ******

    P.S. One may also see Michel’s [Pere Dysmas’] face in the celebrated film on the Grand Chartreuse, entitled “Into Great Silence” as I recall.

  • Ed

    Has the Carthusian Rite been changed since Vatican 2? How? And Why? Having the lineage these two superiors have, may we assume modernist Rome locked them in the cloister from the Outside.

  • Ed: Regarding changes to the Carthusian Rite, please see the following links:

    http://psallitesapienter.blogspot.com/2010/05/modern-carthusian-mass.html

    http://cartusian.tripod.com/id29.html

    I cannot vouch for the accuracy of these posts, but there it is…

  • Richard Buryan

    HERE IS THE PEDIGREE OF REVEREND FATHER SUPERIOUR GENERAL OF THE ORDER OF CARTHUSIANS (VENERABLE FATHER DOM DYSMAS de LASSUS:
    His father, Arnaud de Lassus Saint Génies, was born in 1921. His grandfather was Pierre, Baron de Lassus-Saint Génies, 1886-1986. His great grandfather was also a Baron, but there were no barons previously as far as I can tell. In terms of lineage, here’s the record:
    · Descendent of Alphonse 1 of Portugal
    · Descendent of William the Conqueror
    · Descendent of Ferdinand 1 de Leon et Castille
    · Descendent of Huges Capet
    · Descendent of Charlemagne

    On his mother’s side, Agnès de Chaumont-Quitry, there is an identical pedigree, without the barons :
    · Descendent of Alphonse 1 of Portugal
    · Descendent of William the Conqueror
    · Descendent of Ferdinand 1 de Leon et Castille
    · Descendent of Huges Capet
    · Descendent of Charlemagne

    I gleaned my information from Geneall.

  • vendommarius

    TOM’S ALLEGATION REGARDING THE ‘RETIREMENT’ (SIC) FOR HEALTH REASON OF VENERABLE DOM FRANCOIS MARIE VELUT IS GROUNDLESS PARANOIA. TOM IS EVIDENTLY SUFFERING FROM SELF-SERVING PARANOIA. DOM FRANCOIS MARIE VELUT IS ONCE AGAIN PRIOR OF THE CHARTREUSE d’ PORTES. HE WAS GRANTED MERCY FROM THE BURDEN OF BEING SUPERIOUR GENERAL OF THE CARTHUSIAN ORDER FOR GENUINE HEALTH REASON CORROBORATED BY HIS MEDICAL DOCTOR; VENERABLE FATHER SUFFERS FROM ‘SLEEP APNIA’ AND IS UNABLE TO SLEEP. THIS IS WIDELY KNOW AMONG CARTHUSIANS. THERE IS NO REASON FOR PARANOID ‘CONSPIRACY THEORIES’ EITHER ABOUT FATHER PRIOR FRANCOIS MARIE, WHO IS A GREAT MAN, OR ABOUT THE ORDER OF CARTHUSIANS. YES, THEY ARE OUTSTANDING MONKS. PARANOID CONSPIRACY THEORISTS OUGHT TO EMULATE THE VIRTUE OF INTEGRATING GENUINE RESEARCH AND SCHOLARSHIP INTO THEIR PIETY BEFORE PUBLISHING GROUNDLESS ALLEGATION(S) SERVING ‘TRUMPTED-UP’ ‘CHURCHY’ POLITICAL AGENDAS.

  • MushimasterGingko

    Is it true that Carthusians no longer have a real altarwhen concelebrating but rather a pathetic table which they all gather around like good liberals in a circle at communion time,?

  • I do not know enough about their liturgy. Sorry.

  • Around 10 years ago I e-mailed the Carthusians asking about their liturgy. I was told that the Carthusian rite, which is older than the Tridentine, has never changed, and that they still use it.

  • No, I have been to La Grande Chartreuse twice, in 2003 and 2014 and to their third oldest Charterhouse Portes (Dom Dysmas has been the prior there) about a two hour drive from LGC. I can assure you, their altars are intact as is their liturgy. -Kevin Kane, Founder/President, International Fellowship of St. Bruno (Facebook, IFSB at Yahoogroups.com, http://www.saintbruno.org)

  • Dom Francois did indeed step down due to health reasons.I met with him and have photographic proof, about two months before his relinquishing his position as La Grande Chartreuse’s prior and thus Superior General or Reverend Father of the Order, At the time, Dom Dysmas was prior of Portes. After Dom Francois recovered from his illness, he returned to Portes and is now their prior again, for the second time in its history. Dom Dysmas is currently still the prior of LGC and Superior of the order.- Kevin Kane, founder/president, International Fellowship of St. Bruno. IFSB at Yahoogroups.com on Facebook, and also http://www.saintbruno.org

  • Christopher Morabito

    Thanks for your answer St. Bruno. Can you explain to me why in the documentary “Into Great Silence” there is a scene towards the end in which there is a table at which a priest is offering Holy Mass and the monks are gathered around him in a circle? Also, pictures from the British Charterhouse website and the Holy Transfiguration website (vermont) both include photo’s of the same phenomena. Thank you

  • Yes, it is a custom in the order and has been for centuries. It’s really a half circle, and though I do not know for sure, I suspect that since originally, there was to be no more than 12 monks per community, it comes from symbolizing the Last Supper gathered at the table with the Lord ,the Lord of course being present in the bread and wine.