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		<title>By: Brother André Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brother André Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone asked a question in an on line forum regarding what I meant by a return to our Latin Liturgical traditions. The question, posted here by someone else, has been removed at the request of its original author. 

Nonetheless, here is my reply. I hope it makes some sense...

I would hope for (as I long for) a wholesale return to the Classical Roman Rite, as well as the other venerable Latin liturgical rites: Dominican, Sarum, Carthusian, Carmelite (for the Ancient Observance), Mosarabic, Ambrosian, etc.). Barring a miracle, this will not happen soon. The liturgical program of His Holiness, Pope Benedict XVI, seems to be to put the so-called &quot;Ordinary&quot; and &quot;Extraordinary&quot; forms side-by-side so that they can influence one another, with the &lt;em&gt;Novus Ordo&lt;/em&gt; -- I hope -- contributing only more saints to the traditional calendar. This will infuse into the praxis of the new Mass more aspects of traditional liturgy. That&#039;s a good thing.

So, we can speak of a &quot;specific&quot; return to tradition and a &quot;general&quot; return. While the former is a goal, the latter is a path, and a good in itself given the sorry state of liturgy nowadays. I believe both the specific and general return will help things with the Orthodox. 

Alexei II, the Moscow Patriarch, representing the largest body of Orthodox believers, congratulated Pope Benedict XVI on the publication of Summorum Pontificum. I don&#039;t think he was blowin&#039; incense.

I was not talking about a return to the Mass at the time of the Schism (some &quot;Latin Rite Orthodox&quot; -- small &quot;uniate&quot; groups aligned with one or another Orthodox communion -- profess to use the Missal of Pope Saint Gregory the Great!). I don&#039;t think such provincialism is necessary. 

You may like to read this article, which touches upon your subject of inquiry:

http://catholicism.org/latin-mass-orthodox.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone asked a question in an on line forum regarding what I meant by a return to our Latin Liturgical traditions. The question, posted here by someone else, has been removed at the request of its original author. </p>
<p>Nonetheless, here is my reply. I hope it makes some sense&#8230;</p>
<p>I would hope for (as I long for) a wholesale return to the Classical Roman Rite, as well as the other venerable Latin liturgical rites: Dominican, Sarum, Carthusian, Carmelite (for the Ancient Observance), Mosarabic, Ambrosian, etc.). Barring a miracle, this will not happen soon. The liturgical program of His Holiness, Pope Benedict XVI, seems to be to put the so-called &#8220;Ordinary&#8221; and &#8220;Extraordinary&#8221; forms side-by-side so that they can influence one another, with the <em>Novus Ordo</em> &#8212; I hope &#8212; contributing only more saints to the traditional calendar. This will infuse into the praxis of the new Mass more aspects of traditional liturgy. That&#8217;s a good thing.</p>
<p>So, we can speak of a &#8220;specific&#8221; return to tradition and a &#8220;general&#8221; return. While the former is a goal, the latter is a path, and a good in itself given the sorry state of liturgy nowadays. I believe both the specific and general return will help things with the Orthodox. </p>
<p>Alexei II, the Moscow Patriarch, representing the largest body of Orthodox believers, congratulated Pope Benedict XVI on the publication of Summorum Pontificum. I don&#8217;t think he was blowin&#8217; incense.</p>
<p>I was not talking about a return to the Mass at the time of the Schism (some &#8220;Latin Rite Orthodox&#8221; &#8212; small &#8220;uniate&#8221; groups aligned with one or another Orthodox communion &#8212; profess to use the Missal of Pope Saint Gregory the Great!). I don&#8217;t think such provincialism is necessary. </p>
<p>You may like to read this article, which touches upon your subject of inquiry:</p>
<p><a href="http://catholicism.org/latin-mass-orthodox.html" rel="nofollow">http://catholicism.org/latin-mass-orthodox.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bonifacius</title>
		<link>http://catholicism.org/lex-orandi-lex-credendi.html#comment-1026</link>
		<dc:creator>Bonifacius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 21:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Bro. Andre Marie!  The context of St. Prosper&#039;s statement shows that we must not try to separate the renewal of the traditional liturgy from the correct understanding of &quot;extra ecclesiam nulla salus.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Bro. Andre Marie!  The context of St. Prosper&#8217;s statement shows that we must not try to separate the renewal of the traditional liturgy from the correct understanding of &#8220;extra ecclesiam nulla salus.&#8221;</p>
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