Pope Francis: ‘It Is Not Possible to Find Jesus outside the Church’

From Pope Francis’ sermon today, the feast of Saint George (Jorge Bergoglio’s own patron): “But the Christian identity is not an identity card: Christian identity is belonging to the Church, because all of these belonged to the Church, the Mother Church. Because it is not possible to find Jesus outside the Church. The great Paul VI said: ‘Wanting to live with Jesus without the Church, following Jesus outside of the Church, loving Jesus without the Church is an absurd dichotomy.’”

The Holy Father also spoke of the apostolic fervor of Saint Ignatius of Loyola, the founder the Society of Jesus, and how that fervor was intimately connected to the hierarchical Catholic Church.

  • LionelAndrades

    Pope Francis contradicts Cardinal Kurt Koch
    Pope Francis contradicts Cardinal Kurt Koch, President of the Pontifical Council for Christian Unity and relations with the Jews. Pope Francis has said that it is not possible to find Jesus outside the Church. He was referring not to church in general, including other Christian communities and churches, but to the “hierarchical and Catholic” church of St.Ignatius of Loyola. He quoted the great pope, Pope Paul VI who said, “Wanting to live with Jesus without the Church, following Jesus outside of the Church, loving Jesus without the Church is an absurd dichotomy.”

    He is contradicting Cardinal Kurt Koch’s understanding of ecumenism and also the need for Jews to convert into the Church for salvation.

    Last May Cardinal Kurt Koch said:While Catholics profess that, in the end, all salvation will be accomplished through Jesus Christ, “it does not necessarily follow that the Jews are excluded from God’s salvation because they do not believe in Jesus Christ as the Messiah of Israel and the son of God,” the cardinal said. “That the Jews are participants in God’s salvation is theologically unquestionable, but how that can be possible without confessing Christ explicitly is and remains an unfathomable divine mystery.”

    The pope has solved Cardinal Kurt Koch’s ‘unfathomable divine mystery’. He is saying that it necessarily follows that the Jews will be excluded from God’s salvation if they do not believe in Jesus Christ within the Catholic Church.

    When Pope Francis quoted Pope Paul VI who said, “Wanting to live with Jesus without the Church, following Jesus outside of the Church, loving Jesus without the Church is an absurd dichotomy”, the Jesuit pope is saying that membership in the “hierarchical and Catholic” was necessary for Jews and Christians, for salvation.-Lionel Andrades

  • linda daily

    Depends on what you mean by Church. Most Catholics have an emaciated notion of Church.

  • Matthew the Wayfarer

    People cannot find Jesus outside the church but Jesus can find the people and bring them into the church!

  • Matthew the Wayfarer

    “He quoted the great pope, Pope Paul VI who said………” You are kidding, right? Pope Paul VI of sad memory has caused more destruction of the Catholic Church than anyone since Martin Luther.

  • LionelAndrades

    People cannot find Jesus outside the church but Jesus can find the people and bring them into the church!
    It is not enough to find Jesus outside the Church. Along with beleiving in Him it is necessary to be baptised. Then for salvation it is neccesary to live the teachings of the Catholic Church.
    If some believes in Jesus and is baptised with water and lives the Gospel and dies without mortal sin he can be saved.
    Otherwise someone who knows Jesus in the Protestant communities or the Catholic Church and dies with unrepentent mortal soul, not absolved in the Sacrament of Reconciliation, is on the way to Hell.

  • LionelAndrades

    The destruction was there since the time of Pope Pius XII when no pope affirmed the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and neither of them said that we do not know anyone saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire. To infer that there are exceptions to the dogma on salvation, means saying that we can physically see the dead.None of them cleared up this error.
    Now most Catholics interpret Nostra Aetate 2( a ray of the Truth) as being an exception to the traditional interpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney.
    Catholics have to accept an irrational, non traditional and heretical new doctrine.It is some 70 plus years and nearly every one keeps saying that there are ‘exceptions’ to the dogma.