Diane Feinstein to Catholic Judge Nominee: ‘The Dogma Lives Loudly Within You’

Catholic Culture, Phil Lawler: Because some senators didn’t like [Amy] Barrett’s religious views. “The dogma lives loudly within you,” said Senator Dianne Feinstein. Feinstein evidently meant for that sentence to sound sinister. I can only say that I wish people would say the same thing about me. And as Ross Douthat of the New York Times has pointed out, it’s not only the dogma that has lived loudly within Barrett; a faithful Catholic, she is the mother of seven children.

But Feinstein’s blatantly anti-Catholic swipe at Barrett was not, actually, the most troublesome moment of the hearing. Nor was it the most flagrant violation of the constitutional ban on a religious test. For that we must turn to Senator Dick Durbin of Illinois, a self-described Catholic. Durbin took Barrett to task for her use of the term “orthodox” to describe Catholics who uphold Church teaching. Some Catholics who use that label have criticized Pope Francis, Durbin said. He relented only when Barrett said that she would prefer to describe herself as a “faithful” Catholic, and that she admires the Pope. So a “faithful” Catholic who supports the Pope could be an acceptable candidate for a federal judiciary seat, but an “orthodox” Catholic who criticizes the Pope could not? Isn’t that clearly a religious test? Full article is here.

  • Joe DeCarlo

    I wish dogma would live loud in Pope Francis

  • Pofarmer

    Is it legitimate to worry about legislators and judges making rulings or legislating based on theology and not secular law?

  • That’s the problem with a secular state that has appropriated the place of God. Since God’s laws don’t matter to them at all (e.g., abortion, usury, taxpayer funded contraception, unjust wars, burdensome and unjust taxation, etc.), government leeches arrogate to themselves a certain role as enforcers of their own nonsensical orthodoxies, like liberal notions of Church and State. These latter do not much allow for “faithful” or “orthodox” Catholics in public life.

    This horrible political thinking how people like Feinstein and Durbin even violate the Constitutional proscription on religious tests for office. Bernie Sanders, too, recently did it with an Evangelical Christian nominee. These secularists are hypocrites by their own secular standard.

  • Pofarmer

    Well, gee. you’ll have to forgive those of us who don’t wish to go back to the Divine Rights of Kings, burning Heretics, and the occasional Witch hunt for good sport.

  • Divine Right of kings is a protestant thing, as were Witch hunts, generally. I’m not for those notions. They’s so sixteenth-century.

    So instead of all those unpleasant things you confuse with Catholic Christendom, we get the public pillorying of Catholics who wish to be faithful to their religion by the secularists you would elect. Oh, and abortion, lots of abortion, preferably funded by the taxpayer. We must sacrifice infants to our enlightened secularist gods in these progressive times in which we live.

  • Pofarmer

    Apparently you’ve not heard of Jefferson’s letter to the Danbury Baptists?


    To messers. Nehemiah Dodge, Ephraim Robbins, & Stephen S.
    Nelson, a committee of the Danbury Baptist association in the state of


    The affectionate sentiments of esteem and approbation which
    you are so good as to express towards me, on behalf of the Danbury
    Baptist association, give me the highest satisfaction. my duties
    dictate a faithful and zealous pursuit of the interests of my
    constituents, & in proportion as they are persuaded of my fidelity
    to those duties, the discharge of them becomes more and more pleasing.

    Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies
    solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for
    his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government
    reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign
    reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that
    their legislature should “make no law respecting an establishment of
    religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,” thus building a
    wall of separation between Church & State. Adhering to this
    expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of
    conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of
    those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights,
    convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.

    I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection &
    blessing of the common father and creator of man, and tender you for
    yourselves & your religious association, assurances of my high
    respect & esteem.

    Th Jefferson

    Jan. 1. 1802.

    You have the right to practice your religion, but you don’t have the right to practice it on someone else.

  • I have heard of the Letter to the Danbury Baptists. (I’ve even read it, and before today!) Does my hearing of it oblige me to accept it as dogma?

    Whatever you may say to that, my knowledge of this famous letter does not lead me to revise my convictions as stated above.

    I hope it does not scandalize you that I consider Jesus Christ the King more important than Mr. Jefferson.

  • Pofarmer

    hope it does not scandalize you that I consider Jesus Christ the King more important than Mr. Jefferson.

    When it comes to matters of governance in a secular democracy I’d say yes yes it does.

  • That is where we part ways.

  • Pofarmer


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  • Eleonore

    I called the phone number given at the end of this horrifying video. It is the U.S. Congress. Where do we go from there to lodge a complaint against those senators who are applying an unconstitutional religious test to this well-qualified lady?

  • Eleonore villarrubia

    FYI, I read in the newspaper this week that Judge Barrett was confirmed for her position.